Is there any recommended Browser for Windows?


#1

Dear ind.ie-forum,

which browser would you recommend from a privacy point of view, that doesn’t track you and that provides a good User Experience for our day to day internet tasks? (as a user who used Chrome)

Thx for your feedback!


#2

@ab, I would recommend Brave as a general purpose browser. It’s Chromium-based. They have ad-blocking by default as well as HTTPS everywhere. They also have preliminary techniques like fingerprinting protection, as well as standard Chrome features like private browsing. The financial model for Brave suggests using Brave Ads (replacement for website ads that don’t track you) but you can switch this to just block all ads if you choose.

Just a fan of the product and hoping this is helpful. Interested in hearing other responses!


#3

Do you know if Brave ads are tracking? Their model seems very similar to AdBlock Plus in this sense. (I am largely unfamiliar with Brave, except for the involvement of Brendan Eich–of whom I am not a big fan.)


#4

I would say either Firefox (with some extensions) or Brave.

Firefox is the one I can recommend based on personal experiences. My whole family uses it either as primary browser on Windows or secondary browser on Mac. It’s a reliable browser and given that most other services like password managers offer extensions for Firefox it is highly flexible. Little downside, for privacy you have to install some extensions manually. I use and highly recommend uBlock Origin, HTTPS everywhere and CanvasBlocker.

Brave is a very interesting product. It’s easier in the sense that those privacy protections are built-in. Some password managers are already built-in as well, but as of today it does not support extensions in general (which can be a downside). As far as I know it’s planned for the v1 release. Brave’s business model is definitely interesting (see FAQ for further infos https://brave.com/FAQ.html), but I haven’t invested enough time into this yet to come to a final conclusion.

The FAQ also answer @laura’s question about tracking. In general, ads are targeted but the targeting and analysis of user behavior happens only on the device itself. They also plan to whitelist ads that meet some “quality standards” (“non-intrusive, not tracking, …”) and say that won’t charge fees for getting on that list.


#5

Mozilla is a not for profit organization. So I suggest https://firefox.com. Of course in combination with privacy add-ons:
http://firefox.add0n.com/privacy-settings.html - for good default settings
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock - for tracker blocking
and maybe
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere - defaults connections to https
https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/self-destructing-cookies/ - cookies
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/decentraleyes/ - cdn


#6

Thx for all the feedback, I will be testing brave (if it’s true that the “tracking” takes place on the device itself) and I always had firefox installed. I think I’ll give it another try.


#7

What do you think about Opera and its included VPN?


#8

I would not trust Opera. They’ve been doing some other shady stuff lately, and their VPN is more of a proxy.

VPNs are a really tricky thing to recommend because they mostly rely on trusting another party with your traffic. While @aral and I both use VPNs, we don’t often recommend those we use to other people because our needs may vary.

But, saying that, I would personally trust IPredator, and it should cover most needs.


#11

Mozilla with tools from eff.org would be fine.


#12

If you go with Firefox:


I found Canvas Defender from this link. I’m not sure how well it works, but it’s interesting when it pops up a notice that you’re being fingerprinted. I found I was being fingerprinted by my local webmail provider, (but not another webmail account I have) and even from NOAA: https://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/weus/h5-loop-wv.html (F’ers)


(too bad many of these are not defaulted for maximum Anonymity out of the box)

-Trout